What if we center equity and social justice in everything we do?

On the As It Should Be with Thamarrah Jones podcast, folks doing just that explore what it takes to recreate the world as it should be.

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These are some of our listeners favorite episodes. Start here or browse around on your own.

How anti-democratic elements in America are inciting a collective trauma response in America and how somatic practices can help us mobilize our healing towards the fight for justice.

How TV & film’s portrayal of Black men has impacted how we as a society behave towards them, what we expect from them, and how THEY navigate the world as a result.

How the makers of K12 education content are pushing the industry towards more inclusivity by decentering the white experience.

Meet Your Host

Hi 👋🏾 I’m Thamarrah Jones.

pronounced: tuh-mair-uh  joh-ns
pronouns: she/her

I share stories and resources to empower humans unlearning their role in upholding systems that hurt people.

The People Have Spoken


Love It! 12/10

This podcast is all that an d a bag of chips. I love a good mix of learning, laughing, smiling, and cringing.
By YoGirlTT on Nov 10, 2021 via Apple Podcasts


Conversation to provoke thought is what comes to mind when I think about this podcast. Thamarrah really ask questions that delve deep beyond the surface and she's so personable that you feel you're in the conversation too. Looking forward to more episodes and seeing the growth of this game changing podcast.
By Theorist98 on Jan. 3, 2021 via Apple Podcasts

Not for the Faint. The real deal.

This is exactly what we need right now... So refreshing to hear from people really making the changes... Honestly, some of it is so thought-provoking that I have to listen to it twice. Great podcast for people who are ready to help change the world.
By Productive Minimalist on Dec. 3, 2020 via Apple Podcasts